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Togezo-like enemy?[]

Huh? Didn't Togezo's appear in Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards? I saw a black creature with white glowing eyes and a green helmet with spikes, it attacks by curling into a ball and rolling at Kirby. Or it's another enemy that resembles Togezo? IceShadow1199 (talk) 01:13, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

That's Punc you're referring to.--Starman125RobofishKine? Is that you? 01:42, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Different enemy[]

Apparently, at least according to the Japanese wiki, the enemy that gives Needle in Kirby's Adventure and Kirby's Dream Course is not the same enemy as the enemy that gives Needle in Kirby's Dream Land 3. The Japanese wiki lists Togezo and Spiny as separate enemies. Do we have evidence, from English sources, that the Needle-bearing enemy in KA and KDC is called Togezo, as opposed to being unnamed or otherwise? IqskirbyActually called "Beam Machine Gun" in KSS; after that discovery, I felt the need to say it in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voiceBihm Masheen Gahn! 12:48, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Possible resson for Togezo's removal[]

Hey so, i was watching gameplay on YouTube of this NES/Famicom game called "Gimmick!" and I noticed one thing about it. Before that tho, the game was released in January lf 92, while Kirby's Dream Land on April of 92, so any similarities between this and the first kirby game are merely coincidental. Now onto my point: There's one particular enemy in the game that caught my attention. Look by yourself:

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The original Togezo?

I got on info on the enemy names in this game but, i think we can all agree on the uncanny resemblance here. Reminder that Kirby's Adventure came out in 1993.

While Togezo managed to get 2 more appearances in DC & DL3, he didn't show up in the remake or subsequent games.

The game, Gimmick, actually got a rerelease in 2002 for the PlayStation. You know what other game came out in 2002? Nightmare in Dream Land, a remake of Adventure, which replaced some characters.

So with that, Togezo was most likely replaced with Needlous to avoid potential controversy regarding the character designs. --Kirb Star (SmashLawler) (talk) 00:19, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

That's a possibility, but "Togezo" (トゲゾー) is also the Japanese name of the Mario enemy "Spiny." Ironically, the names were swapped for Kirby, with "Togezo" being the English name and "Spiny" (スパイニー) being the Japanese name. Although the Togezo sprite from Kirby's Adventure does more closely resemble the enemy from Gimmick as opposed to Super Mario Bros. Alternatively, all of the Togezos could come from the same root due to the Japanese translation, as "Toge" means "thorn" or "spike," and "zo" is an obsolete suffix for a masculine name. Iqskirby (talk) 00:33, September 27, 2018 (UTC)
      Yeah, I am aware of that fact on the common names, I was just pointing out the visual similarities as to why could the character have been replaced. Doesn't explain Gip or Phan Phan yet tho.Kirb Star (SmashLawler) (talk) 18:41, June 7, 2020 (UTC)

Kirb Star (SmashLawler) (talk) 18:41, June 7, 2020 (UTC)z

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