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::::Yeah, if there's an actual name for any of them (like DX), go with that. Otherwise, numbering is fine. --[[File:GiokuAvatar.png|32px|link=]]<span style="color:#00FF00" >G</span><span style="color:#00E800">i</span><span style="color:#00D800">o</span><span style="color:#00C800">k</span><span style="color:#00B800">u</span><sup>[[User_talk:Gioku|talk]]</sup><sub>[[User:Gioku|user]]</sub> 23:05, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, if there's an actual name for any of them (like DX), go with that. Otherwise, numbering is fine. --[[File:GiokuAvatar.png|32px|link=]]<span style="color:#00FF00" >G</span><span style="color:#00E800">i</span><span style="color:#00D800">o</span><span style="color:#00C800">k</span><span style="color:#00B800">u</span><sup>[[User_talk:Gioku|talk]]</sup><sub>[[User:Gioku|user]]</sub> 23:05, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::Forms five and six probably have the same name...I compared the japanese characters. Form 4 is indeed DX, but the last two forms are not. [[User:Joshaeus|Joshaeus]] ([[User talk:Joshaeus|talk]]) 21:22, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::Forms five and six probably have the same name...I compared the japanese characters. Form 4 is indeed DX, but the last two forms are not. [[User:Joshaeus|Joshaeus]] ([[User talk:Joshaeus|talk]]) 21:22, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
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::::       If youre wondering about forms 2 and 3, just remember Magolor from Main mode of KRtDL. as he had 3 forms also called Magolor. [[User:DeDeDe Devious|DeDeDe Devious]] ([[User talk:DeDeDe Devious|talk]]) 14:57, February 1, 2014 (UTC)DeDeDe Devious
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That is true. Although, Magolor was fought only thrice, while Sectionia seems to have five or six different battle segments. However, they might not even be "separate battles", per se. They're just different sections of the final battle. It would make sense to keep the original bosses name (It isn't like their names are going to change at all), until they become their "Soul" form, that is. [[User:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: gray; font-weight: bold;">Meta Kirby52</span>]] [[File:Kake-1-.png|Created by NerdyBoutKirby]] [[User_talk:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: hotpink; font-weight: bold;">It's all ''mine''!</span>]] 15:02, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
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: Yeah, technically, it seems she only has four forms, not counting DX becasue that might not be the same Sectonia, but five fights. The second and third fights are the same form, there's just a cutscene in between. That's why I put "first round" and "second round" on the actual page. Thanks for helping clear that up, everyone.
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: I never noticed that before, but Magolor's second and third forms just say "Magolor"? That's weird. I know the first one says "Lor and Magolor" because that's what it is, but I'm surprised the final form didn't get a unique name, because it's very different. [[User:Kirpow|Kirpow]] ([[User talk:Kirpow|talk]]) 21:07, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
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:::No, during the fight Magolor's name is simply Magolor...unless the battle is during EX, and in that case his third form is called Magolor Soul. I think it was stated somewhere on the Wikia that it may have been a programming error, but who knows? Magolor just has three different forms, in the normal mode, so that's probably why his name is just Magolor throughout the whole final battle.
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:::And you did good with the Sectonia numbering. Hopefully ''K:TD'' will get released late this month or early March...
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:::[[User:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: gray; font-weight: bold;">Meta Kirby52</span>]] [[File:Kake-1-.png|Created by NerdyBoutKirby]] [[User_talk:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: hotpink; font-weight: bold;">It's all ''mine''!</span>]] 13:13, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::The first fight with Magolor, the one on Landia, is called "Lor and Magolor" because it's just that, a fight with the Lor and Magolor. The fight with him directly is called "Magolor", and so is the one after that. The Extra Mode fight with him, on Landia, is "Lor EX and Magolor", while the direct fight is "Magolor EX". And then, like you said, the final fight is "Magolor Soul". [[User:Kirpow|Kirpow]] ([[User talk:Kirpow|talk]]) 17:55, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
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== Quotes Section ==
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Just checking, since I don't want to do anything wrong, but should we remove the quotes section on this page? Considering all it says is "to be added", so there's not really much point in keeping it while there aren't any quotes. [[User:DoodleDragon|<span style="color: lightblue; font-weight: bold;">DoodleDragon</span>]] [[Image:-.gif]] [[User_talk:Doodle Dragon|<span style="color: violet; font-weight: bold;">Artist 'til the bitter end!</span>]] 20:00, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
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If anyone can read Japanese, the Japanese wikia has some info about Sectonia that could probably be useful here
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http://ja.kirby.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%82%BB%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2
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From what I can tell, Sectonia used to be on good terms with Daranza, but she became obsessed with her beauty and with control. She imprisoned those flower fairy people after she learned that they planted that seed on Popstar to lead the hero below up there. Also, they seem to believe something about Dark Matter being involved. [[User:MetaXzero|MetaXzero]] ([[User talk:MetaXzero|talk]]) 00:03, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:Of course, this is always something subject to change. ''Kirby'' games revise scripts a lot, and I have a feeling this one will be no different. It is rather pointless to have an empty Quotes section. [[User:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: gray; font-weight: bold;">Meta Kirby52</span>]] [[File:Kake-1-.png|Created by NerdyBoutKirby]] [[User_talk:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: hotpink; font-weight: bold;">It's all ''mine''! </span>]] 01:29, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
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::Uh, yeah... hmm... thanks for catching that. I'd kinda like to lock these KTD articles until KTD comes out, anyway; but we'll see. --[[File:GiokuAvatar.png|32px|link=]]<span style="color:#00FF00" >G</span><span style="color:#00E800">i</span><span style="color:#00D800">o</span><span style="color:#00C800">k</span><span style="color:#00B800">u</span><sup>[[User_talk:Gioku|talk]]</sup><sub>[[User:Gioku|user]]</sub> 02:15, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
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==Sectonia's forms referencing earlier final bosses==
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Her orange fire thing behaves the same as Drawcia Soul (as was mentioned) and the portal-laser attack is similar to that of Magolor (also mentioned). Could the thorny vine be a reference to Zero Two's cactus-like tail? Just a thought. Ftaghn Talk 00:22, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:I haven't seen it, but based on the description, it reads more Marx to me. [[User:NerdyBoutKirby|<span style="color: black; font-weight: bold;">NerdyBoutKirby</span>]] [[File:X-Naut.png|30px|link=http://www.mariowiki.com/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door|I mean, sir? You rang, Sir Grodus, dude? Grodus? Sir Grodus, sir?]] [[User_talk:NerdyBoutKirby|<span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;">You rang, dude?</span>]] 00:26, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
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::Thorny vines sounds very Marx, yes. --[[File:GiokuAvatar.png|32px|link=]]<span style="color:#00FF00" >G</span><span style="color:#00E800">i</span><span style="color:#00D800">o</span><span style="color:#00C800">k</span><span style="color:#00B800">u</span><sup>[[User_talk:Gioku|talk]]</sup><sub>[[User:Gioku|user]]</sub> 00:31, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Depends on how the thorny vines appear; Does she drop/spawn them for attack, or are they a part of her body? I've only briefly glanced at Sectonia, so I don't remember what she looks like. [[User:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: gray; font-weight: bold;">Meta Kirby52</span>]] [[File:Kake-1-.png|Created by NerdyBoutKirby]] [[User_talk:Meta Kirby52|<span style="color: hotpink; font-weight: bold;">It's all ''mine''! </span>]] 00:42, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Her vine attack actully reminds me of one of [[Capamari]]'s tentacle attacks-[[User:10 Brave Kirbys]] [[File:180px-Kirbyslick.jpg]] [[User talk:10 Brave Kirbys|I think it should be called the yummy-looking peppermint star, not the Slick Star]] 13:15, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::You really cant tell if she spawns or drops them because shes in the background and they come from the corner of the screen. but theyre most likely part of her body since she is a huge vine. [[User:DeDeDe Devious|DeDeDe Devious]] ([[User talk:DeDeDe Devious|talk]]) 12:12, April 1, 2014 (UTC)Dedede Devious
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==Soul of Sectonia article?==
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Well, will there be one? And does anyone else think that 'soul of sectonia' is a translation goof? [[User:Joshaeus|Joshaeus]] ([[User talk:Joshaeus|talk]]) 19:19, May 7, 2014 (UTC)
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: There are soul articles for Marx, Magolor, and Drawcia, so I think we'll make one for Sectonia. No reason for her to be the odd one out. And yes, "Soul of Sectonia" seems kind of weird considering the previous three souls' names. Also, please rember to sign your posts, and set your topic in the Heading 2 font so it's more distinguishable. [[User:Kirpow|<span style="color: hotpink; font-weight: bold;">Kir</span><span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;">''POW!''</span>]] [[File:POW.png|Created by NerdyBoutKirby]] [[User_talk:Kirpow|<span style="color: hotpink; font-weight: bold;">What hit me?</span>]] 22:28, May 6, 2014 (UTC)
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: Oops...sorry. [[User:Joshaeus|Joshaeus]] ([[User talk:Joshaeus|talk]]) 19:19, May 7, 2014 (UTC)
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== 02 ==
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WHere in Sectonia's theme does it resemble 02's theme? <strike>[[User:DeDeDe Devious|DeDeDe Devious]] ([[User talk:DeDeDe Devious|talk]]) 20:52, October 20, 2014 (UTC)</strike>DededeDevious
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== New Image ==
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Does Anyone think this will be a better fit for the image in the infobox--[[User:White Kirby|White Kirby]] ([[User talk:White Kirby|talk]]) 00:30, November 18, 2014 (UTC)[[File:200px-KTD_Queen_Sectonia.jpg|thumb]]
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:I think so. A cutscene picture is probably more preferred than a battle screenshot. [[User:Iqskirby|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">Iqskirby</span>]] [[File:Birthday Sig.png]] [[User talk:Iqskirby|<span style="color:hotpink;font-weight:bold">It's my birthday!! (well, not any more....)</span>]] 01:19, November 18, 2014 (UTC)
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==More information on Sectonia and the Dimensional Mirror==
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On HAL Laboratory's Miiverse, it was recently confirmed that Sectonia is "a mistress of manipulative magic" and "she looked similar to her insectoid underlings, but her current beautiful yet deadly bee-like form is a body that she took over through the use of her magic."
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Light was shed on how she obtained the Dimensional Mirror. To quote, Shinya Kumazaki says: "Well, her underling Taranza stole it from the Mirror World, and gave it as tribute to his beauty-obsessed queen!"
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Sources: [https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkSsJclEg 1] , [https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkVc-Aw1w 2]
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[[User:Mmmmaaaa|Mmmmaaaa]] ([[User talk:Mmmmaaaa|talk]]) 03:53, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
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:We were already aware of these, but thank you for your concerns. [[User:Iqskirby|<span style="color: red; font-weight: bold">Iqskirby</span>]][[File:Beam Machine Gun.gif|Actually called "Beam Machine Gun" in KSS; after that discovery, I felt the need to say it in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice]][[User talk:Iqskirby|<span style="color: #F8D860; font-weight: bold">Bihm Masheen Gahn!</span>]] 11:44, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
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:::You're welcome. I brought it up though, because on her page, it's not brought out specifically to say that Taranza presented the mirror to her, and it's not brought out that she didn't always appear how she does.
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:::[[User:Mmmmaaaa|Mmmmaaaa]] ([[User talk:Mmmmaaaa|talk]]) 13:16, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
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::::The second point is mentioned in her Physical Appearance section. [[User:NerdyBoutKirby|<span style="color: firebrick; font-weight: bold;">NerdyBo</span><span style="color: gold; font-weight: bold;">utKirby</span>]] [[File:Grunkle Stan sprite.png|Three letters back]] [[User talk:NerdyBoutKirby|<span style="color:black; font-weight: bold;">''I did that with my mouth!''</span>]] 15:05, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
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==Should the beginning of the article be changed now that we know her original form?==
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The beginning implies that she originally resembled an Antr, but now we know she actually resembled Taranza.
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[[User:Axolotl buddy|Axolotl buddy]] ([[User talk:Axolotl buddy|talk]]) 21:50, December 3, 2016 (UTC)
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==Music Trivia==
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It says that she has four themes that play when fighting her, but she only has Sullied Grace, Moonstruck Blossom, and A World to Save. The fourth theme only plays during the final phase of Soul of Sectonia, which is what I assume is being counted as the fourth theme. Are we going to leave it as four, or are we going to downscale it to three, as the fourth one only occurs in her Soul form? Or maybe there's something I'm missing? [[User:Iqskirby|<span style="color: red; font-weight: bold">Iqskirby</span>]][[File:Beam Machine Gun.gif|Actually called "Beam Machine Gun" in KSS; after that discovery, I felt the need to say it in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice]][[User talk:Iqskirby|<span style="color: #F8D860; font-weight: bold">Bihm Masheen Gahn!</span>]] 18:39, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

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Sectonia's Forms

So I'm a bit confused as to what to call Sectonia's, like, five forms. Obviously her first form is Sectonia, but what about her second one? It's still called "Sectonia" but it's clearly different. It could be Soul, but I would think her FINAL form is Soul, the True Arena form. Then her third form, or the third fight, because it's techincally srill her second form.. well, that should probably just be called second form phase two. Then there's Sectonia DX. Then, for the fifth fight, where she consumes the four Hypernova Beans, like I said, I would think that's Soul. Then after that, when she rips her head from the World Tree... what to call that? Kirpow (talk) 19:50, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

For now, just number them like you're already doing, and that should be just fine. --GiokuAvatarGiokutalkuser 20:11, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
So, one through six then? Four is DX. Kirpow (talk) 20:50, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, if there's an actual name for any of them (like DX), go with that. Otherwise, numbering is fine. --GiokuAvatarGiokutalkuser 23:05, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
Forms five and six probably have the same name...I compared the japanese characters. Form 4 is indeed DX, but the last two forms are not. Joshaeus (talk) 21:22, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
       If youre wondering about forms 2 and 3, just remember Magolor from Main mode of KRtDL. as he had 3 forms also called Magolor. DeDeDe Devious (talk) 14:57, February 1, 2014 (UTC)DeDeDe Devious

That is true. Although, Magolor was fought only thrice, while Sectionia seems to have five or six different battle segments. However, they might not even be "separate battles", per se. They're just different sections of the final battle. It would make sense to keep the original bosses name (It isn't like their names are going to change at all), until they become their "Soul" form, that is. Meta Kirby52 Created by NerdyBoutKirby It's all mine! 15:02, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, technically, it seems she only has four forms, not counting DX becasue that might not be the same Sectonia, but five fights. The second and third fights are the same form, there's just a cutscene in between. That's why I put "first round" and "second round" on the actual page. Thanks for helping clear that up, everyone.
I never noticed that before, but Magolor's second and third forms just say "Magolor"? That's weird. I know the first one says "Lor and Magolor" because that's what it is, but I'm surprised the final form didn't get a unique name, because it's very different. Kirpow (talk) 21:07, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
No, during the fight Magolor's name is simply Magolor...unless the battle is during EX, and in that case his third form is called Magolor Soul. I think it was stated somewhere on the Wikia that it may have been a programming error, but who knows? Magolor just has three different forms, in the normal mode, so that's probably why his name is just Magolor throughout the whole final battle.
And you did good with the Sectonia numbering. Hopefully K:TD will get released late this month or early March...
Meta Kirby52 Created by NerdyBoutKirby It's all mine! 13:13, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
The first fight with Magolor, the one on Landia, is called "Lor and Magolor" because it's just that, a fight with the Lor and Magolor. The fight with him directly is called "Magolor", and so is the one after that. The Extra Mode fight with him, on Landia, is "Lor EX and Magolor", while the direct fight is "Magolor EX". And then, like you said, the final fight is "Magolor Soul". Kirpow (talk) 17:55, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

Quotes Section

Just checking, since I don't want to do anything wrong, but should we remove the quotes section on this page? Considering all it says is "to be added", so there's not really much point in keeping it while there aren't any quotes. DoodleDragon - Artist 'til the bitter end! 20:00, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

If anyone can read Japanese, the Japanese wikia has some info about Sectonia that could probably be useful here

http://ja.kirby.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%82%BB%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2

From what I can tell, Sectonia used to be on good terms with Daranza, but she became obsessed with her beauty and with control. She imprisoned those flower fairy people after she learned that they planted that seed on Popstar to lead the hero below up there. Also, they seem to believe something about Dark Matter being involved. MetaXzero (talk) 00:03, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Of course, this is always something subject to change. Kirby games revise scripts a lot, and I have a feeling this one will be no different. It is rather pointless to have an empty Quotes section. Meta Kirby52 Created by NerdyBoutKirby It's all mine! 01:29, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
Uh, yeah... hmm... thanks for catching that. I'd kinda like to lock these KTD articles until KTD comes out, anyway; but we'll see. --GiokuAvatarGiokutalkuser 02:15, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Sectonia's forms referencing earlier final bosses

Her orange fire thing behaves the same as Drawcia Soul (as was mentioned) and the portal-laser attack is similar to that of Magolor (also mentioned). Could the thorny vine be a reference to Zero Two's cactus-like tail? Just a thought. Ftaghn Talk 00:22, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

I haven't seen it, but based on the description, it reads more Marx to me. NerdyBoutKirby I mean, sir? You rang, Sir Grodus, dude? Grodus? Sir Grodus, sir? You rang, dude? 00:26, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Thorny vines sounds very Marx, yes. --GiokuAvatarGiokutalkuser 00:31, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Depends on how the thorny vines appear; Does she drop/spawn them for attack, or are they a part of her body? I've only briefly glanced at Sectonia, so I don't remember what she looks like. Meta Kirby52 Created by NerdyBoutKirby It's all mine! 00:42, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Her vine attack actully reminds me of one of Capamari's tentacle attacks-User:10 Brave Kirbys File:180px-Kirbyslick.jpg I think it should be called the yummy-looking peppermint star, not the Slick Star 13:15, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
You really cant tell if she spawns or drops them because shes in the background and they come from the corner of the screen. but theyre most likely part of her body since she is a huge vine. DeDeDe Devious (talk) 12:12, April 1, 2014 (UTC)Dedede Devious

Soul of Sectonia article?

Well, will there be one? And does anyone else think that 'soul of sectonia' is a translation goof? Joshaeus (talk) 19:19, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

There are soul articles for Marx, Magolor, and Drawcia, so I think we'll make one for Sectonia. No reason for her to be the odd one out. And yes, "Soul of Sectonia" seems kind of weird considering the previous three souls' names. Also, please rember to sign your posts, and set your topic in the Heading 2 font so it's more distinguishable. KirPOW! Created by NerdyBoutKirby What hit me? 22:28, May 6, 2014 (UTC)
Oops...sorry. Joshaeus (talk) 19:19, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

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WHere in Sectonia's theme does it resemble 02's theme? DeDeDe Devious (talk) 20:52, October 20, 2014 (UTC)DededeDevious


New Image

Does Anyone think this will be a better fit for the image in the infobox--White Kirby (talk) 00:30, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

200px-KTD Queen Sectonia
I think so. A cutscene picture is probably more preferred than a battle screenshot. Iqskirby Birthday Sig It's my birthday!! (well, not any more....) 01:19, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

More information on Sectonia and the Dimensional Mirror

On HAL Laboratory's Miiverse, it was recently confirmed that Sectonia is "a mistress of manipulative magic" and "she looked similar to her insectoid underlings, but her current beautiful yet deadly bee-like form is a body that she took over through the use of her magic."

Light was shed on how she obtained the Dimensional Mirror. To quote, Shinya Kumazaki says: "Well, her underling Taranza stole it from the Mirror World, and gave it as tribute to his beauty-obsessed queen!"

Sources: 1 , 2

Mmmmaaaa (talk) 03:53, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

We were already aware of these, but thank you for your concerns. IqskirbyActually called "Beam Machine Gun" in KSS; after that discovery, I felt the need to say it in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voiceBihm Masheen Gahn! 11:44, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. I brought it up though, because on her page, it's not brought out specifically to say that Taranza presented the mirror to her, and it's not brought out that she didn't always appear how she does.
Mmmmaaaa (talk) 13:16, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
The second point is mentioned in her Physical Appearance section. NerdyBoutKirby Three letters back I did that with my mouth! 15:05, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Should the beginning of the article be changed now that we know her original form?

The beginning implies that she originally resembled an Antr, but now we know she actually resembled Taranza.

Axolotl buddy (talk) 21:50, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Music Trivia

It says that she has four themes that play when fighting her, but she only has Sullied Grace, Moonstruck Blossom, and A World to Save. The fourth theme only plays during the final phase of Soul of Sectonia, which is what I assume is being counted as the fourth theme. Are we going to leave it as four, or are we going to downscale it to three, as the fourth one only occurs in her Soul form? Or maybe there's something I'm missing? IqskirbyActually called "Beam Machine Gun" in KSS; after that discovery, I felt the need to say it in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voiceBihm Masheen Gahn! 18:39, December 18, 2016 (UTC)