Hazards VS Enemy
I suppose we can hold the discussion here of whether or not certain foes (like Shipwreck Octopus, Squeaky Hammer Machine, and Bite Statue) truly count as enemies, if that's okay. My first inclination to defining them would be towards going by our current description (of hazards being inanimate objects), but is that good enough? Paul2 The dorky isocahedron returns. 14:32, August 24, 2018 (UTC)
- Making a clear-cut distinction between what's an enemy and what's a hazard can be quite difficult at times. One could try to go the route of animate vs inanimate, but in a fantasy world, that's not a very easy distinction. We could also try to rely on official enemy castings, but with a general lack of those recently (in English, at least), and with Kirby 64 calling things like harmless butterflies, logs, and falling volcano rocks enemies, that seems rather unreliable/inconsistent. It seems that our distinction for hazards vs enemies is a rather case-by-case thing. I'd personally consider Squeaky Hammer Machine a hazard, in the same way as Springy Hand; it just sits in the background and periodically does its crushing blow with the hammer on its head. Whether or not adding a face to something otherwise generic makes it an enemy instead of a hazard, I don't really know. Iqskirby (talk) 16:59, August 24, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm mostly in agreement with Iqs, though we do differ in a few places. Any time HAL directly states that an object is an enemy, we have to follow it, even when it's odd (the aforementioned Ignus is a perfect example). That's the only reason Ignus, Flutter, and Splinter count--without that confirmation, there's no point in declaring innocuous things enemies. The animate/inanimate distinction is pretty good, though it gets murky primarily with mechanical contraptions. I tend to follow the philosophy that a robot with features befitting an organism (arms, legs, face, etc.) is to be treated like an enemy--that's what separates Squeaky Hammer Machine from the mechanical hammers in Egg Engines. Springy Hand is a robotic hand while Waddle Dee Train has a Waddle Dee face.
- Another aspect to consider is how the object moves in space. Let's say there's an inanimate balloon with a face printed on it that floats through the air and hurts Kirby if it touches him. If the balloon drifts aimlessly through the air, it's reasonable to posit that it's a hazard. If the balloon specifically targets Kirby and chases him or attempts to flee when he approaches, one could make a decent argument that it's an enemy that simply lacks the characteristics of a sentient creature. Those are my thoughts, anyway. NerdyBoutKirby You should've gone for the head. 03:16, August 25, 2018 (UTC)