Talk:Kirby's Return to Dream Land

I found an interesting tidbit of information on Wikipedia. Actually, more of a rumor than anything else. I asked about it in the Talk Page, but no one has answered me quite yet. So, do NOT add this to the article unless we can get a better source.

While the article is still just called "Kirby (video game)" on Wikipedia, the VG Box calls it "Kirby: Legend of the Stars." It also claims Japan gets it on December 19th of this year. Neither "facts" have sources.

Another interesting bit of information, is this article here: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=6131 Kirby for the Wii is on this article. They referred to it as "Kirby Adventure" in that article, and said:

"It has been said that Kirby has recently been resurrected as a Wii game, though, so we expect the beleaguered little Kirby to return to proper, non-novelty home console gaming later this year. Or 2009. Or 2010. He always gets treated badly. Nintendo keeps the real Kirby in a cage, you know."

I find this interesting. Is the project still alive, perhaps? Will we see any new screenshots or something by the end of this year or sometime the next? Please, I want an answer. 76.175.116.65 20:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If this game IS still holding on to life by a thread, then the release date was obviously wrong. I will edit that out (my first edit on the wiki...) I seriously hope this game happens, I have only played Kirby 64 (today. Yeah, I know), and the video looked amazing. I may also add some of those alternate titles, if they aren't alredy there... / JakeyBoy01 22:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

--Helperkirby24 19:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC) I have info on Kirby wii that I can't edit into the Kirby Wii article, like I know that Cutter Kirby and Sir Kibble will be in the game and much more. Also I want the credit for it so I would have to edit it in myself. So to who ever is in charge could you unlock the the Kirby Wii article, please. (Is this enough of a reliable source)

--Helperkirby24 07:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Helperkirby24 Thanx for unlocking it.

Huh? Since when was the water ability in the game? That could very well be the bubble ability with differences. Or it could be the new water ability. We don't know. So what should go in the spot that says the water ability? Bubble/water? Possibly water? Possibly bubble? I won't change anything until I know that it's okay, otherwise I could anger a few people with the change. Also, I don't remember the editing page looking like this, so something might have changed with how you edit. Sorry if I made a mistake with editing because of this. Rainbowkirby749 06:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Rainbowkirby749

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Helloooooooooooo!
Hi I`m new to this wiki, I come from another wiki far far away......(it starts with piki)Anyway I seriously hope kirby for wii lives, becouse ever since project K64 (I just beat miricle matter an hour ago) it seams that kirby has bean prohibited to portable systems it would be nice to see the pink puff on a bigger screan... it`sa--PK king 22:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh I know you from Pikipedia!!! And go whine about it elsewhere.

>_< Why you rude little...err I mean hi crys!(so this is how you treat new members, MEAN!) it'sa---PK king 19:40, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I know I'm mean... and remember I can ban you... *Ominous Music*... uhhh... hi Nin10dude/PKK

ughhh... T_T -PK king


 * I'm watching you... always...

I believe that there wil be some 3d moments in kirby wii. if you don´t believe me, you can waths the trailer. go to the fight with the gigantic droid and waths the background.


 * You can't even tell what the thing in the picture is because of the water mark.

thumb|300px|rightIf you waths the trailer you can see its kirby.(my first message is stupid, sorry).


 * Well, I don't see it, too unclear to tell, *Generic Things*

I have found a new video in high quality with no water mark. Its must be kirby.


 * I see it now, I believe this is a "Circled" boss like Whispy in 64
 * No. If you actually pay attention to Kirby's movements, you can tell that he ISN'T in the background, but instead just in back of the robot. EmptyStar 00:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Weird that the camera is not following kirby but his buddy's. This is the link to the video, you can see it here without youtube water mark:

http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=kiby+wii+high+qalutie&hl=nl&emb=0&aq=f#hl=nl&emb=0&aq=f&q=kirby+wii+high+qualitylink title

greets BHuysman

Is Ice Kirby gonna be in this?  Snow  Kirby 


 * You know, I don't think it was 3D It's-a me, BrawlFan181 !


 * What I mean is: I think the camera's angled, and it IS side-scrolling, with the boss to the far left.


 * Unfortunately, though I NEED IT, I've checked the Nintendo website and their is no sign of Kirby Wii, hopefully it along with Pikmin 3 is announced at E3 2010. :/ --

A new enemy?
When I clicked on that link on the upper side of this talk page I saw some sort of Green Heat Phanphan. It's-a me, BrawlFan181 !

its getting released in japan: (1st party wii, hoshi no kaabii) http://kotaku.com/5071872/the-great-2009-nintendo-release-schedule

Yay! return of the Helper
It hasn't been around since Super Star(Ultra was just a remake)

Should have been released is a lie
I noticed on the page it said "still in development" then said something about it should have been out by now. Now this is quite false. As I am a nerd...Kingdom Hearts II was confirmed in 2003, yet was not released in the USA until 2007, years later. Also, many other games were delayed for even longer. It can be released at any time when it is good enough to be worth the wait.

Fixed.  3... 2... 1...   ELECTROCUTE!!!  22:02, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I wana giant Dedede robot and I WANT IT NOW!!!! @_@ Marx Wraith 16:00, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Finally!
I just read today's page and it said the game may be for the Nintendo 3DS. Finally, this game may come out. I can tell it's a great game since it has good enough graphics and good gameplay appearantly. Also, the helper system returns. From what we know about the plot, it does need a little more info but as we know, if Dedede is involved, something really evil lurks about. Also, his Dedede bots look cool and may be challenging bosses. But anyways, this looks like a great game. I hope Meta Knight is in it an﻿d there's some kind of subgame where you can play as him similar to Meta Knightmare Ultra with something similar to the point system allowing you to summon helpers and such. If there is, I hope he can summon more knights like Ax Knight, Javelin Knight, Mace Knight or even a Sir Kibble. But still, I hope this game finally comes out. Whackeyeye5 19:32, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * A talk page isn't meant for this kind of stuff.-- Mega  Tron1  XD  Decepticon.png 19:38, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction
we want the lost kirby game so i can be water kirby

Are you talking about the new Kirby DS game? I'm not sure if Copy Abilities will be on that game. Also, please do not say 'we', you are not every Kirby fan. -- Dee   Its cold.  17:31, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's BACK!! Or at least, some version of it.
http://www.nintendoeverything.com/59896/ LinkTheLefty 15:44, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Split?
I think that the Kirby Wii game that is going to be released should be split from the canceled one. All the info is clashing with one another and its a cluttered mess. --

Fully agree. I think this page should be made into the page of the game in development, and have a previous version of the page before the new info came in split into another page on its own. I'm not familiar with the premise of the old game, so I can't be certain of what information should be included into that other page. Can someone familiar with it do this? I don't mind doing it though.

I agree, but only if Nintendo doesn't totally confirm that the GCN game is what became Kirby Wii before its release. If we split it too early, it may cause more work to put the article back together if that were the case. I say we at least wait until closer to its release to be sure. LinkTheLefty 20:48, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I say suspend further editing on the page until we get more information. I know I know, I just edited it, but that was just to add the link to the E3 trailer. -Noob1234


 * Well, I was thinking of the old one being Kirby Wii (prototype) or something like that and this one being Kirby Wii. It will be easier to navigate as right now, it is hard to read this article due to the multiple items being talked about. Also, I'm pretty sure this is entirely different from the old one, as the inclusion of partners is not present and the appearance looks much different. So do you guys agree with the split? --


 * Agree. I think in the best interests of the growth of the article, since it's slated for release in Fall 2011 would be to split it now, the reason being if indeed circumstances arise and we have to merge the data again, it's still best to include what was revealed before the nintendo investor report in a section called, say, "origin" or something, or "prototype" as you suggested, simply because there was so much development time in between the title now and what it was before has a lot of difference. We're in a weird position; This title has such a long history.


 * Okay, if no opposes later tonight, I will begin to split the article to the best of my ability. --
 * Very well. I propose the name "Kirby GCN" for the article, though, given its similarity to Kirby Wii and the fact that was the most common name for it (the other names it went by, "Hoshi no Kirby" and "Kirby Adventure," would be confusing). That, and technically the footage and info we previously had pertained to the GameCube release and not this Wii game. LinkTheLefty 00:26, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Very well. I propose the name "Kirby GCN" for the article, though, given its similarity to Kirby Wii and the fact that was the most common name for it (the other names it went by, "Hoshi no Kirby" and "Kirby Adventure," would be confusing). That, and technically the footage and info we previously had pertained to the GameCube release and not this Wii game. LinkTheLefty 00:26, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Very well. Kirby GCN it is. --

Tentative title
When the final title is released, we may have to move this page to the new title, leave Kirby Wii as a redirect, and check Special:WhatLinksHere/Kirby_Wii to change all internal links (~40 mainspace pages right now) directing to this page to reflect the new name, since Kirby Wii is generic in nature, and change those still referring to Kirby GCN to its proper page instead of Kirby Wii.

From that perspective, that's something that we'll have to do eventually, or is there a better way of doing it? Sorry, I'm not familiar with protocols like this; I mostly manage templates and patrol edits for factual and grammatical accuracy.  Changtau2005  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  Ribbon agrees!  02:06, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Whip Kirby
I made that ability! no joke! I made it in a comic when I was in 6th grade! And I can prove it!

Fawful117 I HAVE CHORTLES! 02:12, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

We have a new name!
"Kirby Returns to Dream Land." That is the most recent title referred to by Nintendo representatives hours ago, as reported by several gaming sites. So it's pretty much official. Shall we change the article name? LinkTheLefty 02:24, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Where are your sources?  BNK [ E 03:18, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/21/kirby-wiis-actual-name-is/. It's from Siliconera, and every other source mentioning the new name out there is using it as reference. The author of the article goes by the username "Spencer", but he just mentioned a Nintendo rep said the new title in the short article. Whether it's a translated title is not known, and it's not clear when the meeting took place or who the representative is. I think we should wait a bit to see if Nintendo itself announces the title; not much point changing the title then potentially having to change it again since we have to shift all the links too.   Changtau2005  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  Ribbon agrees!  04:14, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * With response to this, since there are divided opinions with regards to whether "Kirby Returns to Dream Land" is the real title, I sent an email to Nintendo of America's customer service department to get to the bottom of this issue:
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!style="font-weight: normal; width: 100%;"|My email --- Original Message ---

From: (my email address was here)

Received: 7/31/11 2:12:06 AM PDT

To: Nintendo 

Subject: Webform: Game Related > Other

Hello. This is a query is regarding the game titled Kirby Wii for the Wii console being developed by HAL Laboratory, to be released in the US in Q3 / Fall 2011.

I'm one of the people at Kirby Wiki (at Wikia.com) responsible for the quality and accuracy of information, and would very much appreciate certain information about the game's current title.

Kirby Wii is the game's official but tentative title given to it at E3 2011. Recently, there has been third-party reports about the title being announced as Kirby Returns to Dream Land at the Comic-Con 2011 event in San Diego. Many of the sources point towards a single report at Siliconera.com, where one of their reporters noted that a Nintendo representative at the Comic-Con event started referring to the game as Kirby Returns to Dream Land rather than its title of Kirby Wii on the plaques and display stands. No information about when the press conference took place or how the title was announced.

What I'd like to know is that:

1. Was the information given at Comic-Con an official statement of the game's final title or has it not been announced yet? If it has, is it Kirby Returns to Dream Land or otherwise, and under what circumstances was it announced, e.g. press conference, interview, etc.?

2. Likewise, for the game's Japanese title, it is currently (tentatively) called 星のカービィ Wii (read Hoshii no Kabi Wii), meaning Kirby of the Stars Wii. If the game's US title had indeed been announced, has its Japanese title been confirmed yet, and what is it?

This information would clear up a lot of the confusion among sites and fans tracking the progress of the title as it nears release.

Thank you very much for your time.
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!style="font-weight: normal;"|Nintendo's reply Thanks for taking your time to contact us. To better assist you with your request, please visit the Corporate section of our website (www.nintendo.com/corp/index.jsp), and click on the "Public Relations and Media Contacts" link. Here you will find a "Request for Information" form that you can fill out. Please do not submit a request which requires a response in less than 24 hours. For the latest information on Nintendo-related products, head to our website at www.nintendo.com. Go to the Corporate area of our site for our company history, financial info, etc. For product-specific information, click on the name of the system listed to the right of the Nintendo logo at the top of our main page. Sincerely, Nintendo of America Inc. Andi Anderson
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 * Well unfortunately, one needs proper press credentials to actually access Nintendo's "Public Relations and Media Contacts" i.e. one needs to be actually working for some kind of publishing body; electronic, paper, or otherwise. So, this is as far as I can probably get. Although I have no experience with this kind of query, I doubt this is the kind of answer they'll give with an already-announced title.   Changtau2005  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  Ribbon agrees!  15:36, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * As has been reported for several weeks, Nintendo has confirmed that the title is "Kirby's Return to Dreamland" (which is what was reported over 3 WEEKS ago). Source: Nintendo PR release http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=30428 . TJ Spyke 15:30, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you have a link to the report that's three weeks old as of August 24, I'd like to see the source so next time the wiki doesn't miss such information. The above link is dated August 23rd. If such a title change happened three weeks ago, I doubt IGN/ Gamespot /GameFAQs would have left their titles hanging until now, unless they're slacking ._.   Changtau2005  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  Ribbon agrees!  08:44, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and looks like Nintendo themselves typed their own title wrong; "Dream Land" on the box art vs. "Dreamland" on the site. . I guess we deferred to the box art, which is the correct thing to do.   Changtau2005  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  Ribbon agrees!  08:48, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Glowing Blade Knight and Hothead
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In the enemy list, it says "An unnamed glowing knight enemy that gives the Ultra Sword ability" and " An unnamed Hothead-like enemy that gives the Monster Flame ability" Both of these enemies are obviously a Blade Knight and Hothead (albeit with a slightly different appearence), as shown in the video at 2:17 and 7:05 .Zweilous64 04:32, August 9, 2011 (UTC)Zweilous64
 * They are. However, if you have confirmation of their names at this time in a reliable source, please reference it and put it into the article.   Changtau2005  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  Ribbon agrees!  17:35, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

found official boxart!

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=159649

Boxart
Looks like the "angry Kirby" boxart has returned, At least Dedede's happy.

Official art + new screenshots
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25792657@N00/sets/72157627509462332/ Zweilous64 02:41, August 25, 2011 (UTC)Zweilous64

Also, picture of all 4 Kirbies in multiplayer: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25792657@N00/6076607109/in/set-72157627509462332 Zweilous64 02:45, August 25, 2011 (UTC)Zweilous64

Looks like Dedede got shrunk by his own Microtizer
The Microtizer is Dedede's device in the episode Something to Sneeze At (ep 63/63) that's essentially a shrink ray. Compare the pic with the link:
 * This picture from official pre-production anime sketches - Kirby's only about double the size of his foot.

Looks like he's finally lost some weight, or maybe his head grew...

 Changtau2005  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  Ribbon agrees!  13:43, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Eh. Playable Dedede was that size in Air Ride. Zweilous64 20:05, August 25, 2011 (UTC)Zweilous64

E10
Wow, E10+ rating on a KIRBY game? This has got to be the first in the series. (I'm not counting KDL3) NerdyBoutKirby   That's what I am. Savvy?  03:03, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Huh? E-10?
I cant help but notice this game's ESRB rating. Is this a first for the Kirby series?(well, other than his Smash Bros appearances) Either way, I cant believe how awesome this game is! Yes Nintendo made us all wait for it, but I think that patience will be more than rewarded! GreenHillTraveler 18:33, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

It's not! Kirby Dream Land 3 was supposed to be rated E-10+, but that rating wasnt made back then! Sparker03 12:00, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Oops!
Didnt see someone already commented on the rating-never mind!GreenHillTraveler 18:35, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

New trailer, shows new bosses + returning abilities
thumb|338px|rightAlso, at 2:03, it uses music from the Kirby GCN trailer.

Zweilous64 21:09, September 13, 2011 (UTC)Zweilous64

Add Noddy to enemy list?
Add Noddy please?

OH, can you add Knuckle Joe and Starman for purpose too?

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Hammer, Spear, and Bonkers
Uh.. are you sure there's going to be Spear ability ?

I mean, we don't have any proof about it and how if Nintendo (or HAL) planned to make the Spear ability to be exclusive for Bandanna Dee ?

And about Hammer and Bonkers. It might seem possible but still, we don't have any proof it'll appear. Or do we ? Riodile 1:33, October 2, 2011 (GMT+7)Riodile

Spear, Crash, Ninja, Mike, Wing confirmed
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1535/28044144.png Zweilous64 19:21, October 4, 2011 (UTC)Zweilous64

About Spear ability...
I admit to be the one who added Spear to the abilities list in the first place. Yes, there is no proof, I simply assumed that since Meta Knight's moves are based off Sword, it would only make sense that Waddle Dee's moves are based off an ability also. However, no word of a Spear ability has been released, so it is likely Spear is exclusive to Waddle Dee. The same thing goes for King Dedede and the Hammer ability. While Hammer is obviously an ability, it's not yet confirmed to be in Kirby's Return to Dream Land. I apologize for any inconveniance and/or confusion and will glady remove Hammer and Spear from the page until more information is released.